The following conversation between Jenna Sutela, Bryant Wells, and myself occurred via Zoom on Wednesday, 28 October, 2020, at 11:00 New York/ 17:00 Berlin. This is the third publication of Version Space, a series of pamphlets transcribing conversations among artists and graduate students in visual art regarding Artificial Intelligence and related topics, produced in collaboration with Library Stack and funded by the Artistic Research program of the Sandberg Instituut, where I was a research fellow in the Department of Fine Arts for the academic years 2018–19 and 2019–20. The conversations take place via videoconference, are recorded, transcribed by an AI, ...