The following conversation between Liz Magic Laser and Julia Schäfer occurred via Zoom on Thursday, 17 September, 2020, at 11:00 New York/17:00 Amsterdam with an audience of students from the Sandberg Instituut, the Yale School of Art, and the Werkplaats Typografie. This is the first publication of Version Space, a series of pamphlets transcribing conversations among artists and graduate students in visual art regarding Artificial Intelligence and related topics, produced in collaboration with Library Stack and funded by the Artistic Research program of the Sandberg Instituut, where I was a research fellow in the Department of Fine Arts for the ...