The following conversation between Kite, Yara Veloso, and Alexander Tanazefti occurred via Zoom on Friday, 19 November, 2021, at 8:00 Tulsa/ 15:00 Arnhem/ and Saturday, November 20, 2021, at 1:00 Sydney. This is the fifth publication of Version Space, a series of pamphlets transcribing conversations among artists and graduate students in visual art regarding Artificial Intelligence and related topics, produced in collaboration with Library Stack and funded by both Library Stack and the Artistic Research program of the Sandberg Instituut, where I was a research fellow in the Department of Fine Arts for the academic years 2018–19 and 2019–20. The ...