We get into dance, the hidden history of black graphic design and what the hell we’re all trying to do in this crazy field. Great ep.

One note, the artist I was thinking about from the Greater New York show at PS1, I got wrong, it was a piece by Glenn Ligon not David Hammonds. Shout out to Vance Wellenstein (https://vancewellenstein.com/) who did a great little book on it too. You can find that book here: https://www.amazon.com/Glenn-Ligon-Housing-History-Greater/dp/0989985962. I know Amazon, not ideal but I think its sold out most first market places. I have a copy that I bought at PS1 and its great. Highly recommended.

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